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Last post 08-16-2008, 12:11 PM by fairyfaye. 640 replies.
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  •  06-16-2008, 8:17 PM 55613 in reply to 15303

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    okay i'm going to come right out with it and tell u .. i didn't make it to the 2yr mark of sitting meditation every morning .. the mark was may 8th and shortly before then was when it stopped

    altho the moving meditation has continued regularly as always

    maybe the holosync sample received in the mail yet unopened will help revive the morning sitting

    it is sooo much more easier and natural for me to meditate when the body is flowing

    altho it's great fun to sit in silent awareness on the bus but that's because there are endless stimulations of sight sound and smell

    so i've been doing that instead of reading on the bus .. does that count ?

     

     

  •  06-19-2008, 6:00 PM 56216 in reply to 15436

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    reading the varieties .. and man ! what ken has started is a dream come true for william james:

    " whether the various spheres or systems are ever to fuse integrally into one absolute conception, as most philosophers assume that they must, and how if so, that conception may best be reached are questions only the future can answer "

     

  •  06-21-2008, 10:05 AM 56662 in reply to 15303

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    oh my god balder asks how the ptf relates with the wcl .. and suddenly music slips away from the music botany lattice 

    and the great realization becomes that

    the states are not stacked atop the structures .. nor are they laid aside them

    they are as the wcl is to the ptf

    religion and science .. music and botany

  •  06-21-2008, 10:17 AM 56664 in reply to 15303

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    the phrase "u interpret your state at whatever structure u are at"

    becomes null and void

    the depth and intensity of a child's state experience and of a zen master's .. is not only

    not "interpretted" .. but not "experienced" .. simply "is"

    emptiness is emptiness .. nonduality is nonduality .. they have no stages

    and subtle is subtle Wink [;)]

     

     

  •  06-22-2008, 10:23 PM 57035 in reply to 15303

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    i've been fantasizing taking a vow of silence

    imagine never speaking again !

     

  •  06-23-2008, 6:10 PM 57335 in reply to 15303

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    falling .. falling .. into a deep dark chasm of despair .. oh god i'm disagreeing with the great mystic scholar philosopher

    where did this come from ? why is this happening ?

    i totally and utterly GET structures of development .. jean gebsers and carol gilligan's and don beck's etc etc etc

    and that we interpret our world at whatever structure we are at .. BUT ..

    no longer resonate with interpretting STATES at whatever structure we are at

    i want to agree with my teacher i love him so .. i used to agree with it .. and that has changed .. and that is why am being tortured .. that is why i don't want to speak

    listened to the current feature (part one with mokshananda) and ALMOST got it when ken said that at nondual .. the world u are "one with" is the one at which structure u are at

    but then ...

    well .. anytime i have been in nondual .. i wasn't in a world of strutures at all .. when u are the trembling sizzling leaves of trees .. where are structures and worldviews ?

    is it possible to be in nondual and even have a conversation with another person .. nevermind identification with your tribe ?

    we don't interpret our state at our structure .. there is no interpretation going on at nondual .. one is simply being without any separate self little me

    it is the separate self little me that develops thru the structures

    and deep sleep is deep sleep whether u are pluralistic or integral

    oh help

     

     

     

  •  06-23-2008, 7:19 PM 57357 in reply to 15303

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    after a few yoga spinal twists .. i can see gross and subtle on the wcl .. they are form and form evolves

    it still doesn't make sense that someone would have .. for example .. an amber interpretation of causal .. nothing is nothing

    or that someone could have a orange interpretation of nondual .. water is not wetter at orange than at red

    altho i definately get how discriminating wisdom is higher and deeper than blind pluralism .. development of worlviews i get

    but states such as causal and nondual are not worldviews

    and now i fear am rambling

     

  •  06-24-2008, 6:25 PM 57667 in reply to 15303

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    perhaps what led me to this is the recognition that a child's spontaneous ability to feel into the wetness of water

    is not interpreted at a lower level than a zen master who meditated to get there

    wet is

     

     

  •  06-24-2008, 6:44 PM 57673 in reply to 15303

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    and doing big hip circles the grid morphs into a graph

    with vertical bars of lines of development

    and it isn't even a graph that

    i haven't already seen

     

    archaic magic mythic rational pluralistic integral

    and higher as the markers along the side

     

    and in addition to cognitive .. moral

    .. kinesthetic .. etc ...

    is subtle

     

    processing existence and expression

    of the subtle realm is a line

     

     

     

  •  06-24-2008, 6:50 PM 57676 in reply to 15436

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    and inside a painful ripping of extreme guilt at no longer agreeing with the wcl 

    it was a stepping stone as was stacking the states atop the structures

    but where do u place music in relation to botany ?

    i weep and fear an old woman has gone mad

     

     

  •  06-25-2008, 6:22 AM 57828 in reply to 15303

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    the clock radio wakes her up this morning .. fergie is singing big girls don't cry don't cry don't cry

    and she gets ready to leave for the office .. so aware of the miracle of being alive .. of having this little life

     

  •  06-26-2008, 4:24 PM 58074 in reply to 15303

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    pretty summer flowers in your fancy party dresses .. how u giggle as i delight in u

    and it tickles

     

  •  06-28-2008, 9:12 AM 58916 in reply to 15303

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    sitting at starbucks in portage place mall downtown .. looking out the huge floor-to-ceiling windows at rush hour in the rain as the excitement of the long weekend begins

    with pen and notebook .. sipping this delicious frothy latte .. i am free

    watching vehicles bicycles pedestrians umbrellas passing by .. everyone moving moving thru falling water and growing puddles which reflect mysterious shadows of the passers by

    in the concrete city .. the scattered wet trees sing glorious bright green with utter glee .. such peace and serenity beneath the busy scene .. headlights glowing like sacred candles .. and high above the buildings the sky in myriads of whipped and folded silver white ..

    oh mister hurrying by .. your beautiful suit is getting wet but you seem to not care as your mind is far away

    pair of downtownbiz patrols .. u walk briskly in step as tho u were one four-legged being

    group of three kids each with an umbrella .. how u delight in the adventure

    two ladies sharing one big bright orange umbrella with your many shopping bags .. you’re pleased with your purchases, aren’t u ?

    guy standing at the lights waiting for them to change .. how u multitask .. one hand holding a cigarette to your lips and the other holding your phone to your ear .. the whole operation scrunched neath the baseball cap on your head

    and inside .. man at the table next to me wearing brown suede cowboy hat .. courting your lovely companion .. i hope u both get lucky

    group of charming students chattering gaily in cantonese at the table behind me .. your energy is invigorating

    and i read my book with pink hilighter .. gradually .. rush hour has passed .. the rain has let up and the sky has lit up .. and a melancholy loniless has come over the streets

    elderly gentleman strolling with your hands behind your back .. u look like a sunny afternoon

  •  06-28-2008, 9:48 AM 58929 in reply to 15303

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    in response to the holons call for elevator pitch .. wrote the following which wasn't appropriate so wasn't accepted for posting .. but tis a baby i love .. so here she is for u

    integrating buddha and freud .. integrating science and spirit .. integrating psychology .. philosophy.. mysticism .. medicine .. business .. art .. sports .. recognizing that humans grow thru structures of inner development .. practicing mind body spirit shadow in self culture nature .. i we it .. the outside and the inside .. states of being .. .. nothing excluded .. everything integrated .. emerging as an evolving universe .. spirit in action thru human consciousness and form

  •  06-28-2008, 1:14 PM 59007 in reply to 15303

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    sometimes u just get the answers u are looking for

    in wondering whether meditating open-eyed on the bus to work in the mornings .. taking in the sights smells sounds .. would be considered serious meditation practice

    today i hear patrick say that leaving our sense perceptions open (during meditation) is symbolic of our confidence that there’s no fundamental problem with us as human beings .. we don’t have to retreat into some inner citadel .. that our mind and our experience of reality just as it is fine .. is without blemish .. without stain ..

    it feels sooo nice to hear that  .. like a looong sweeet sigh . . .

     

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