I would like to use this space to list specific items in the current AQAL model (based on research of today's culture) that we think need changing in order to form a new society. I would like to keep this thread to simply posting current gripes. For debate and further definition of the problems, (step 2), individual threads can later be started to flesh out the gory details. Then, in step 3, the solutions can be proposed.  This is the first step in taking an extrapolative, visionary journey to create a "utopian" AQAL.

1) Green = anti-heiarchy. Currently, most who enter Green are deeply anti-heiarchical. I think it's because of 2 things, first a general lack of knowledge of zone 2 developments (ie spiral dynamics, etc), and second, an immature rational interior when one enters Green.

2) Orange = anti-interior. Currently, Orange does not acknowledge a single interior bone in them, without knowing that every single value or judgement comes from the interior. This could be alleviated by reconstructing a more complete Amber.

3) Orange = no interior. Flatland, anyone? Just what is rational interiority? Just because it doesn't exist today doesn't mean it cannot or should not exist. Developing this is an absolute must! It will help mend Orange and Amber.

4) Amber = anti-exterior. Many adults are rational, yet they remain pre-rational, concrete-operational just to preserve a dysfunctional Amber structure, thus forcing them to ignore exterior data against the structure. This is an Amber structure design flaw.

5) Red = underdeveloped separation of one's interior from everything else, and the failure to recognize the difference between the interiority and exteriority of an object. ("it's mines!" is him from the interior) I think teaching an Amber structure that has a healthy interior and exterior will go a long ways to help children differentiate their interiors from the outside world.

I invite y'all to post gripes you have with the current real world AQAL that are currently dysfunctional and need to be consciously redesigned in order to form a new society.

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I just noticed that the Green and Orange dysfunctions can be summed up as making the previous level into a shadow.

Green cuts out the Orange discriminating side.

Orange cuts out Amber's interior and spirit

Amber can have a red shadow too, by cutting out the selfish, narcissistic, self-serving self.

Red denies ever believing in Santa Clause or believing that the narrower glass contained more water than the same water poured into a wider glass.  It cuts out it's Magenta self.

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Hi Ats, 

I hope this is on-topic; I was listening to a dvd which included a talk Bert Parlee was giving to some students , and he brought up the subject of World War I and how it was perceived  as the "war to end all wars".   According to Bert, the fatal flaw in the thinking of the more enlightened individuals at that time, was that everyone thought the way that they did, i.e. that the devastation wrought by the war was indeed enough for anyone who was observing the World Theatre to completely turn from war forever. It is assumed that had they not made this error in their thinking, the time would have been ripe to put structures in place that  would have made sure that this desire became reality.

I mention this is just to highlight a problem that occurs in first tier thinking; I don't know if it covers all the levels or altitudes, but that would be a good thing to be aware of.  : what is obvious to one level of development is not even on the radar of another's development.

So Second Tier governance would have to be in place to deal with this most unfortunate reality until the world was such that mankind passed through these levels at younger more manageable ages. 

God, I hope this happens in time! If I am stating the obvious, it is just for emphasis.

 

 

 

I didn't think I had anything to say here, but I just thought of something!

One huge thing that I think needs to happen to have healthy development is for education to become more practical and reality-based.  I think it would be a very useful thing for young kids from age 4 or so on up to high school to be given the opportunity (not forced) to participate in working on real social problems, local and global.  Red generally starts around 4 years old, and Red is when individuals absolutely need to have an outlet and focus for their awesome energy, get good models for learning healthy leadership skills, and get them the healthy kind of self-esteem that comes from doing good and helping others.  And what better way to encourage kids to grow into healthy, compassionate, and responsible people than to let them contribute to the health of the world, in whatever way they can?

And in grade school, classes would be so much more useful, to everyone, and be more alluring to kids if they focused on solving real issues that the kids cared about.  Plus, it would provide for a more inclusive, Integral learning atmosphere where kids at different levels and with different skills could work together on a common goal, while also working independently on their own parts of the project, just like in the Holacracy model that I-I is starting to use.  Kids at Amber can do research about the personal effects of the issue, and maybe write essays about what sort of improvements they'd like to see.  Kids at Orange can apply their own research and knowledge and run experiements.  Kids at Green can go out and interview others, including experts as well as regular folks, to get a broader picture, and see if they can find others who have already solved similar problems.  Teal kids (there will probably be at least some in the older grades, at least in good school systems) can organize the whole lot of them, and try and apply some systems theory to see how to bring the proposed solutions into fruition.  And so on.  You wouldn't need to have Integral teachers to make this happen, either, as long as you provided a solid curriculum structure that layed out the focuses for the different levels.  And then kids could pick what roles they wanted to play for themselves.  And if they ran into problems with a certain level (role) they could switch to one that was more their speed.

So yeah, that's what I think is needed in society, a more Integral and more realistic approach to teaching kids what they need to know to be successful in the world.

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-Turtle