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Integral Spirituality and Healing in Peru
Last post 06-20-2008, 1:56 AM by adastra. 22 replies.
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Integral Spirituality and Healing in Peru
In 2003 I went to Peru to experience the shamanic plant medicine Ayahuasca; around the same time I discovered Integral Naked
and got seriously interested in the integral worldview. I know from my
own experience that Ayahuasca is a powerful, sacred medicine with great
potential for shadow work, spiritual awakening, and deep healing - and
that an integral approach is needed to properly contextualize it and
bring out its full potential. For the past five years I've wanted to
help bring those two worlds together. Well, now it's happening. The
man who led the ceremonies in 2003, Diego Palma, is creating a healing
center in Peru which will take an integral approach to healing and
spirituality: Sacred Valley Healing Center
will offer “a living synthesis of shamanic plant medicines with eastern
spirituality and western therapeutic techniques.” Several people
involved in the project are enthusiastic about Ken Wilber's work, and
the project overview explicitly mentions Ken and an integral approach. The four elements of the center are: Addiction rehabilitation program for women Spiritual retreat center Psychotropic medicine plant research facilities Community living near the center My wife Liz and I contacted the healing center as soon as we heard about it and joined the volunteer staff. If you'd like to know more, please visit the Sacred Valley Healing Center
website. The project is still in the early stages but things are
progressing rapidly and you are invited to help create this unique
integral healing center. To
anticipate a question that's likely to come up at some point: the two
sacred medicines that will be used there - San Pedro and Ayahuasca -
have a long, venerable history in that part of the world, and are
unambiguously legal to use in spiritual and healing contexts in Peru. namaste, Arthur
I am seeking meaningful work. bio: http://aqalicious.gaia.com/ I spend most of my "forum time" these days on The Integral Pod: http://pods.gaia.com/ii/ "You've never seen everything." - Bruce Cockburn
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Re: Integral Spirituality and Healing in Peru
Hello Arthur, and thank you for starting such a thoughtful thread. ![Wink [;)]](/Public/cs/emoticons/emotion-5.gif) What an amazing way to create harmony, this act of healing others. I hope Sacred Valley does well and is up and running soon! I have been gaining some understanding in the practice of Reiki and I wonder if there are any thoughts out there on how that energy can be described in integral terminology? but, I suppose it doesn't really matter knowing the name of the car you are driving, as long as it gets you where you want to go.
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adastra
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Re: Integral Spirituality and Healing in Peru
Thanks, BakerBunny
People who work with Ayahuasca certainly often experience subtle
energies (and entities!), and the medicine is quite compatible with
energy work of various kinds, for sure.
You might be interested in checking out Ken Wilber's Excerpt G: Towards a Comprehensive Theory of Subtle Energies.
Here
we begin to address the role and nature of energy—gross energy, subtle
energy, and causal energy. I have already suggested that mass and energy are
aspects of the UR-dimension of every individual being—that is, they
represent some of the
exterior
forms
of every individual (and every system, as we will see).
The
problem here might be stated as follows. Given (1) the premodern lack of
clarity about the role of matter, and (2) the fact that the ancients therefore
pictured subtle energies as fundamentally
meta-physical
or super-natural; but given (3) the modern understanding of matter as not
bottom but exterior, then (4) how can we re-interpret in a more adequate
fashion the relation of subtle energies to gross material forms?
Put
simply, because matter is not the bottom of all levels but the exterior of all
levels, where does subtle energy fit into this scheme? In the premodern
traditions, subtle energy or "prana" was usually depicted as the
second level in the Great Chain (e.g., pranamayakosha): it was a level of
etheric or astral energy "above" physical matter and energy. But if
matter itself is re-interpreted, how can subtle energy likewise be
reinterpreted to keep pace with modern and postmodern revelations of Spirit's
own unfolding?
Suggested Solution
The
suggested solution in this case comes in the form of three hypotheses, two of
which we have seen already, and the third of which deals directly with this
issue.
#1.
Increasing
evolution brings increasing complexity of gross form.
In the Upper Right, for example, we find quarks to protons to atoms to
molecules to cells to complex organisms. This increase in complexity of form
(via such processes as differentiation and integration) has long been noted by
evolutionary biologists. Ervin Laszlo: "Thus, while a new level of
organization means a simplification of system function, and of the
corresponding system structure, it also means the initiation of a process of
progressive structural and functional complexification." I think this
"complexification" is fairly obvious and needn't detain us.
#2.
Increasing
complexity of form (in the UR) is correlated with increasing interior
consciousness (in the UL).
This was Teilhard de Chardin's "law of complexity and
consciousness"—namely, the more of the former, the more of the
latter. As we might put it more precisely, the greater the degree of exterior
complexity of material form, the greater the degree of interior consciousness
that can be enacted within that form (i.e., correlation of UR and UL).
#3.
Further—and this is the connecting hypothesis—
increasing
complexity of gross form is correlated with increasingly subtlety of energies.
As evolution proceeds to more and more complex gross forms, the increasing
degree of gross complexity is accompanied by subtler and subtler corresponding
(or signature) energy patterns. Since we are at this point focusing on
individual beings, we have this: increasing evolution brings increasing
complexity
of gross form
(in the UR), which is correlated with an
increasing
degree of consciousness
(in the UL), and, in the UR itself, a
subtilization
of corresponding energies.
Thus, instead of interpreting higher levels as being essentially divorced from
gross matter or gross form, the complexification of gross form is the vehicle
of manifestation for both subtler energies and greater consciousness.
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If
those connecting links hold, that would be the third major step in the move
from premodern metaphysics to integral post-metaphysics, a move that, I
believe, retains the enduring truths of the great metaphysical traditions but
without what appears to be their outmoded interpretative frameworks. But that
brings us to the end of this brief introduction and to the beginning of the
main discussion of an integral theory of subtle energies. - Ken Wilber, Excerpt G: Towards a Comprehensive Theory of Subtle Energies
Ends on kind of a teaser, eh? I'm looking forward to reading more from Ken on this topic.
spiral out,
Arthur
I am seeking meaningful work. bio: http://aqalicious.gaia.com/ I spend most of my "forum time" these days on The Integral Pod: http://pods.gaia.com/ii/ "You've never seen everything." - Bruce Cockburn
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Your tea cermonies sound fantastic, Adastra. Do you guys have silent retreats? I'm not sure, but I think I have a good idea what Ayahuasca feels like because I'm always following your posts about it. It probably reminds me of the early instances of taking mushrooms, but maybe I'm making a brass comparison. If I was really concerned all that much about the people in South America, I'd probably send my little sister back there where she was going through shamanic experiences, and visiting Peru, too. A good question might be does language and poetry not have an effect on consciousness in some sort of mind-altering mood that causes us to rethink our emersion in the calmness and clarity that you say brings us to a peaceful state of mind? I'm happy to be the court-jester applying a little entertainment when I'm not qualified to discuss my experience. We are perfect together today, no?? (By the Way, I've done the "Integrally Spiritual toe Healing in Perrrru" thing before but probably without as many r's I know ya' remember that ocean)
"Ω =∞x∞^∞" - Wayne Teasdale
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The Rasta Needs A Girlfriend
In the Upper Right, a most important factor, patterns, I'm sure, circle and spiral out, but two particles together on a molecule chasing eachother round-and-round...
Particles seperate but are connected by a single string,
what happens when the string dissapates?
The particles still bright? One Particle alone, Why and What depth?
In the Upper Left
The reasons for the particles journey plays out. They form a molecule because of attraction, They pull-apart because a direct line between them creates a most solid boundary, the line of attraction dissaperates because, well, there are too many lines and circles and spiral-spinning, the particles stands alone but in a certain setting or stage
In the Lower Right
a molecule becomes a part of much more organized system like a heart. The chemical and spiritual aura blast contained within reveals a pluralistic order of concious evolution, balancing, remembering, and driving ever-forward until one heart relates quite just so to the other
In the Lower Left
becomes more like the place in which the setting is encased. The distinctive value of say female to male or perhaps agent to orange dips and suavely swerves and basically manifests as a mystical presence which can be sensed, a emminant release, a vibrancy attained, a call to motion, and the simplest purest noisomeness.
"Ω =∞x∞^∞" - Wayne Teasdale
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Re: Integral Spirituality and Healing in Peru
Anybody interesting in the actual topic
of this thread, please contact me privately or in the similar thread
Sacred
Valley Healing Center, which is in a moderated integral
forum.
namaste, Arthur
I am seeking meaningful work. bio: http://aqalicious.gaia.com/ I spend most of my "forum time" these days on The Integral Pod: http://pods.gaia.com/ii/ "You've never seen everything." - Bruce Cockburn
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Re: Integral Spirituality and Healing in Peru
Castel:
Thanks so much for that link, Castel! I've only skimmed some of the comments so far, but your assessment appears to be accurate. ![Smile [:)]](/Public/cs/emoticons/emotion-1.gif) I notice someone there linked to video material from the first Ayahuasca conference. It's great that Integral Naked guest Alex Grey will be at the 2nd conference. I have enjoyed his dialogs and other material here, and I loved the book he co-edited with Alan Hunt Badiner, Zig Zag Zen: Buddhism and Psychedelics - it's full of stunning artwork and a well-balanced array of essays, interviews etc. on the topic. It'll be next week sometime before I have a chance to really check this material out, but I'm looking forward to it. ![Big Smile [:D]](/Public/cs/emoticons/emotion-2.gif) cheers, Arthur
I am seeking meaningful work. bio: http://aqalicious.gaia.com/ I spend most of my "forum time" these days on The Integral Pod: http://pods.gaia.com/ii/ "You've never seen everything." - Bruce Cockburn
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Re: Integral Spirituality and Healing in Peru
oh thank u arthur u are such an excellent resource
we are blessed to have u here
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Re: Integral Spirituality and Healing in Peru
fairyfaye:oh thank u arthur u are such an excellent resource
we are blessed to have u here
Thanks, Fairyfaye. I do like connecting things and people together. ![Smile [:)]](/Public/cs/emoticons/emotion-1.gif) spiral out, Arthur
I am seeking meaningful work. bio: http://aqalicious.gaia.com/ I spend most of my "forum time" these days on The Integral Pod: http://pods.gaia.com/ii/ "You've never seen everything." - Bruce Cockburn
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Re: Integral Spirituality and Healing in Peru
i'd LOVE to try that ayahuasca .. and the setting u describe sounds like a good place to do so
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Re: Integral Spirituality and Healing in Peru
Arthur:
I applaud the work you are doing. By the way, have you thought about filming a documentary weaving the traditional shamanic work with the Ayahuasca and the modern mechanisms of shadow work? I would love to watch that. It could be a real eye opener.
You mention that "Ayahuasca is a powerful, sacred medicine with great potential for shadow work, spiritual awakening, and deep healing."
Can I ask you to be more specific about this? What exactly happens and how is it that this in any way promotes shadow work, spiritual awakening or deep healing?
I am kind of skeptical about the notion that anything that is of importance to human health and development can only be found only in the Andes. Or to put it another way, I am kind of skeptical about the notion that one needs to go to the Andes to learn anything that matters.
And I am really skeptical about the value of any kind of psychotropic drug to do anything for us that was meant to be done or that is useful.
I may be wrong.
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Re: Integral Spirituality and Healing in Peru
Hi, Schalk Thanks for your interest! You ask some great questions, which unfortunately I don't have time to go into very deeply right now - I'm on a weekend retreat with Gangaji at the moment. (I'm also on a slow, slightly dodgy internet connection.) So I'll briefly address some of that and I can say more later. One thing I would say is that Ayahuasca is merely one tool among many, and it is certainly not necessary. There is nothing that can be achieved by drinking Ayahuasca that cannot be achieved in other ways, and most people are just not drawn to do that kind of work. However, it is a very powerful technique for people who are attracted to this kind of shamanic/entheogenic work. And of course, like everything else, it greatly benefits from an integral embrace. ![Smile [:)]](/Public/cs/emoticons/emotion-1.gif) Anyway, I'll finish by quoting a small report I wrote about the retreat I did in Peru in 2003. Next week I can answer your questions in more detail. cheers, Arthur Ayahuasca Retreat In Peru Here in Vancouver it is easy
to get the materials to make Ayahuasca, the potent plant based brew
used by indigenous people in the amazon for millennia for healing and
spirit journeys. However, wanting to go closer to the source for my
introduction to this plant teacher, I recently traveled with two close
friends to attend an Ayahuasca retreat in Peru. The retreat took place
at the Corto Maltés Amazonia Lodge, on the banks of the Madre de Dios
River. We were surrounded by the amazon rain forest, with its amazing
diversity of plant and animal life. Being away from the stress and
distractions of modern life was healing in itself and definitely
enhanced the experience. There were no media available during the
retreat, and not knowing what was happening in the outside world helped
me to realize that everything important was happening right there – it
was the inner work we were doing that really mattered. The Ayahuasca
experience itself is hard to describe; it felt something like dreaming
or dying. The Ayahuasca session is a crucible in which
psychological and spiritual processes occur at a much greater level of
intensity than is typical in everyday life, enabling one to learn
rapidly and deeply about life, mind, relationships and spirit. Members
of the group reported a wide variety of experiences. Some people had
visions, for others the trip mostly involved their thought processes or
emotions. One person felt she was dying, surrounded by white light, her
body dissolving into nothingness. Another reported feeling enlightened
in the present moment, for the first time – after years of serious Zen
meditation. A few people battled inner demons in one way or another.
One person felt that Ayahuasca was essentially an artificial alteration
of his perceptions, though most people felt that Ayahuasca revealed
deeper truths about life. Each person had a unique experience, in fact
each session for each person was unique. We did three
sessions altogether. Each time we would gather in the dining area of
the retreat center, with a pillow, blanket, water, and whatever else we
would need for the overnight session. We would walk together down a
dark path into the forest, lit by small torches about every two to
three meters. We gathered in a special building called a malocha
used only for Ayahuasca sessions. Diego, the leader of the group, would
say some prayers, and then one by one we would go to him to receive the
medicine. When the Ayahuasca started to take effect, Diego would begin
to chant and play his guitar. His beautiful chanting was very soothing
and centering, and was a valuable and helpful part of the sessions. For
me Ayahuasca brought up whatever I needed to experience in the present
moment. I found it to be a very harsh teacher. Whenever I tried to
resist what was being shown to me, the experience would become more
intense and unpleasant – one of the central lessons for me is that it
is better to let go, to surrender to the experience. Some concepts that
I had understood in an abstract way I experienced at a much deeper
level. One of these concepts is impermanence. I had grasped that
concept on a superficial intellectual level, but didn’t really
understand it. During my first and third Ayahuasca sessions, I entered
into states of intense suffering that I was absolutely convinced would
never end – even death would not release me. Yet those states did pass.
At another point I found myself spontaneously breathing out love into
the world. It was a subtle experience but very distinct. This is
something I had practiced in the past, but which I hadn’t really felt
before. What had been an intellectual exercise before became an
experiential reality during the Ayahuasca session. Since then I’ve
occasionally been able to practice this technique and genuinely feel
it. Ayahuasca also helped me to see that a great deal of what I
experience is a projection of my mind, which interferes with my ability
to see the world – inner or outer – with clarity. I had read and
thought about being centered and experiencing the moment as it is,
without trying to grasp or resist. Under the influence of Ayahuasca,
this quality of mind is vitally important, and I believe I am now more
capable of manifesting that quality in daily life. In the
second session one of my friends was having a very intense, difficult
time, and at one point all of us gathered around her and were chanting
for her. It felt wonderful to be part of a circle of caring, giving
love and attention to a friend in need. During the first session I had
a very difficult time, and others helped me; now I found myself on the
other side of that equation and it felt wonderful to take that role for
her. During the third experience, when I was suffering intensely
regarding karma from past actions - basically feeling emotions I needed
to feel but had always avoided - I feel I was “burning karma,” doing
some of the suffering I needed to do. I feel clearer now, as if my
karmic load has lightened a bit. (For those who prefer psychological
jargon: I achieved a cathartic release of repressed emotion.) No
matter how difficult the session was, when the effects started to wear
off – when I was no longer tripping – I felt happy and centered. So
glad to be alive, to breathe, to be in this space with people I love.
This, for me, is a wonderful aspect of the Ayahuasca experience. First
I go through the difficult part, then I feel wonderful – it’s the exact
opposite of taking a drug, feeling good for a while, then experiencing
some sort of hangover. It seems to me – I can't stress this
enough - that the best way to do Ayahuasca is in this sort of ritual
setting. The medicine can teach a lot about relationships, and how to
give and receive love. Sharing the experience with my fellow travelers
afterwards was as significant as the Ayahuasca session itself. The
chanting and singing were important aspects of it and the opening and
closing of the ceremony helped to put the experience in context. I
believe that Ayahuasca, used properly, can be a catalyst to accelerate
personal and spiritual growth. You still have to go through your
process, but this medicine can speed things up. It shows you what you
need to work on and puts you in a state where you can do some intense
learning. Ayahuasca, in my experience, works very well in the context
of an ongoing spiritual practice such as meditation. I would recommend
the Ayahuasca experience to anyone who is seriously interested in
spiritual or psychological work. More information about the particular
retreat that I attended may be found at http://www.Ayahuasca-wasi.com.
I am seeking meaningful work. bio: http://aqalicious.gaia.com/ I spend most of my "forum time" these days on The Integral Pod: http://pods.gaia.com/ii/ "You've never seen everything." - Bruce Cockburn
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Re: Integral Spirituality and Healing in Peru
fairyfaye:
i'd LOVE to try that ayahuasca .. and the setting u describe sounds like a good place to do so
I highly recommend doing a retreat with Diego in Peru if you have the means to do so. ![Smile [:)]](/Public/cs/emoticons/emotion-1.gif) namaste, Arthur
I am seeking meaningful work. bio: http://aqalicious.gaia.com/ I spend most of my "forum time" these days on The Integral Pod: http://pods.gaia.com/ii/ "You've never seen everything." - Bruce Cockburn
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Arthur:
I would like to thank you sincerely for sharing the passages above concerning the Ayahuasca Retreat. I asked a simple question and you provided an absolutely "spot-on" piece of material in response.
In all honesty, I do not know that there has ever been a more exquisite, concise and truthful exposition written concerning an altered state session. Your words are soaked with authenticity, honesty and lucidity.
I appreciate your comment that the Ayahuasca session is a crucible that allows processes to happen at greater intensity. A crucible! Nice.
Your point about Ayahuasca requiring you to do the work first and then letting you repose in ease later as compared to drug use in general which titillates you for free and then makes you pay later is a brilliant distinction.
Reading your words about impermanence evokes the very truth you address.
I feel honored for having asked the question.
Thank you. And best wishes in your work.
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